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Thread: What constitutes a "build"
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28 December 2014, 02:40 #31
This thread is a little different then i thought i would be reading..lol..anyways..what constitutes a build for me , pretty easy....money.......lol...........
Thinking i need a 308 build in my collection...so let the saving begin...
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28 December 2014, 05:45 #32
Calling any assemblage of parts into an AR a "build" is lame. As is the contractor analogy.
I've come to associate both with people that are more interested in Internet picture posting and safe-stuffing than actually shooting the guns.WWW.TACTICALYELLOWVISOR.NET
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28 December 2014, 06:07 #33
Did you read the dictionary definition of what 'to build' actually means that I posted? I don't 'safe stuff' - shit, I don't even have a safe! Out here where I live a safe isn't necessary at all! My rifles are in racks in my walls and I USE them.
Have you ever 'built' a rifle? If so, how did you do it? Did you forge and machine the receivers? Did you forge the metal for the barrel, then drill it out and rifle it? Did you manually machine the pins and springs?...
If you say that you have 'built' a rifle, then by your own statement you are stating you yourself are lame for saying so.Freedom is NEVER Free. We have to work to protect it and even be willing to die to protect it.
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28 December 2014, 06:10 #34
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28 December 2014, 06:16 #35Freedom is NEVER Free. We have to work to protect it and even be willing to die to protect it.
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28 December 2014, 06:46 #36LEO / MIL
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28 December 2014, 07:25 #37
I guess my post was incomplete. I should have included this, too:
syn·o·nym
/ˈsinəˌnim/
noun
a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language
It just so happens that ARs are ridiculously easy to "build" so it does make it hard for people with actual machining / gunsmithing skills to show off their talents. If I actually had such talents, I'd probably be building HK roller-locks from flats or at least building all my ARs from 80% lowers. But, I have no such talents which is why I love the AR. But I also think this is why there is such an industry around aftermarket components for the AR: the people with actual machining / gunsmithing skills turned their attention to making replacement parts that improve the platform (e.g., Bill Geissele) and sell them to guys like me who can only "build" ARs.
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28 December 2014, 07:56 #38
Not to put words in Rob's mouth but I think he's just saying does it really matter whether or not it's a build? Personally I don't care if someone calls it a build, an upgrade or an assembled group of parts. Does it matter if a kid says look what I assembled out of Legos, or do they need to say look what I built?
P.S. I'm not into safe stuffing cause I don't have the revenue, but I do like internet pictures.
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28 December 2014, 08:51 #39
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28 December 2014, 09:00 #40
Hey asshat, take a reading comprehension course, then please go back and point out, where in this thread I said "I am better than you because I have a Bridgeport". Show me where I said I have a Bridgeport. I have access to one. Want to discuss it? My PM box is open for business. Loser.
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28 December 2014, 09:01 #41
And there is the very attitude I mentioned earlier. I find it ironic that you're commenting on a forum that essentially is filled with industry photographers and people who enjoy photography yet you want to belittle them. There's a word for that it's called hypocrisy. There's nothing lame about the contractor analogy, but what is lame is someone who offers no valid counterpoint much like a previous discussion where you popped up to essentially abase others here as being nothing more than internet junkies who don't shoot. That's lame...
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28 December 2014, 09:11 #42Member
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I don't care what it's called but taking a few boxes of parts and spending time putting it all together yourself is fun and a great way to learn more about the platform. Hand picking components and tailoring the rifle to your goals results in a rifle that isn't almost perfect for you, it is perfect for you.
Call it what you want - that's just semantics in my book.
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28 December 2014, 09:13 #43
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28 December 2014, 09:17 #44
Hey ordnance.... no need to get mad. I don't agree with Rob_S, but this thread is going south pretty quickly and people are getting rubbed the wrong way. it (this thread) started with an honest and simple question, that solicited responses, not hurling insults or being insulted. I had one asshat here already tell me he was responding to where I said "I was better than everybody because I have a Bridgeport". Neither is true, and there is no such post on here. Just an asshat who's probably just here for the GAW and will be gone soon. (just my guess).
Rob_S, you're an intelligent guy. I read it in your posts, and once in a while on your blog, TYV. You can post an opinion without calling folks names. Leave that to folks who post false information as in the above paragraph.
Let's not have Rich shut this down, because folks can't be intellectually honest or civil. There's more depth to the replies (well for the most part), than I thought there would be, except for "butt hurt" guy and his imaginary Bridgeport conjecture. Also there is nothing personal here, such as political or theological discussions, so no one should have to put up with insults, or get their feathers ruffled.
I think the whole thing is based on perspective. And I enjoy reading diversified perspectives, as we all should.NRA Life Member
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28 December 2014, 09:29 #45
FT as I was trying to lighten the mood earlier, but I'm newer here and yet this is the second time Rob has shown up to impart his wisdom upon us which is less than stellar. I'm not offended but annoyed since guys like that give other people in the industry a bad image IMO. This is me being blunt when people who think their God's gift to shooting come on-line to talk trash about others on-line. I have zero tolerance for hypocrites.