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Thread: What BCG would you use?
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19 April 2017, 12:57 #1
What BCG would you use?
so I have a S&W Sport II, and I am strongly considering buying another BCG. Obviously there is nothing wrong with the one that came with it, but I'd like to accomplish two things with a new one:
1. The new version needs to have some kind of treatment, process or coating that makes it a bit more reliable if it has to go to a high round count between cleanings and lubrication.
Something like chrome, NP3, melonite or similar.
2. This will allow me to pillage the bolt and all the other parts off the factory BCG and store them in the stock or in a pack as back-up to breakage.
So. The question is, which BCG would you use, and why? Also, it would be helpful if the one you recommend was actually available, not some unicorn-vaporware part that no one can ever find in-stock somewhere.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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19 April 2017, 13:25 #2
Don't waste your money. Lube is cheap. Cleaning is overrated. :)
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19 April 2017, 14:12 #3
My duty guns are basically the only guns that get a good cleaning. Everything else gets lube, a wipe down, and some quick bore snake action.
I still like nitride and NiB coatings though as they make the wipe down process easier as it's not a porous as phosphate. If it was 7-8 years ago when say Fail Zero was the only game in town and $250, I'd say pass. Nowadays a lot of options out there for the same or a few dollars more than their phosphate counterparts.
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19 April 2017, 14:31 #4
I often hear Sionics in a positive light: http://sionicsweaponsystems.com/stor...d-cam-pin.html
I personally use LMT Enhanced BCGs in my DI guns; I don't really care for coated/treated carriers, and rather just add lube, particularly since I shoot suppressed almost exclusively.
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19 April 2017, 14:36 #5
A quality NiB or NP3. Makes cleaning as simple as spraying on some "Gun Scrubber" and wiping with a piece of T-shirt. On those bolts, any left on carbon build up can be "scraped" with my thumbnail. Make sure you re-lube well, the gun scrubber takes everything off. You can also use the cheap brake cleaner spray from Wal Mart for about a buck a can, but it's not safe for use on wood, rubber or polymer parts. This method makes cleaning the Lower, Upper and BCG about a 20 minute affair. I have scrapped enough phosphorus bolts in my life time to last me forever, and now it's just been a minor distraction, for a number of years.
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19 April 2017, 14:55 #6
Last edited by Stone; 19 April 2017 at 14:59.
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19 April 2017, 18:26 #7
two or three times a year Primary Arms will sell the Fail Zero BCGs for $99. I'd wait for that deal to come up again and jump on it.
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19 April 2017, 18:42 #8
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Roger has the Sionics BCGs for sale on the Forward Controls website. Ordering from him should save you approximately one-hundred billion dollars on shipping.
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21 April 2017, 04:12 #10
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Sharps BBC and Relia Bolt. I know it had some teething issues and some bad press from some YouTube vids showing early breakage of the bolt but it was also determined that it was more than likely a faulty gun that caused those issues. It's not much more than a lot I've seen and still coming in less than Fail Zero used to peddle their product for.
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21 April 2017, 05:01 #11
You won't find many people around here falling for gimmick products that are a cure for a problem that does not exist.
I'd go with either of these and not look back.
https://www.cmttac.com/AR_Components?product_id=151
http://fathomarms.com/product/black-...roup-mil-spec/
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21 April 2017, 06:03 #12
I should have added that one of the things I look for is a C-158 bolt. Lots of very good bolts that use 9310, but I prefer to stick with mil-spec because I believe everything I read on the internet.
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21 April 2017, 07:02 #13
I picked up a couple NiB BCGs from PSA on sale a while back; MPI, HPT, C-158 bolt. I run them in suppressed guns and I have had zero issues.
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21 April 2017, 15:36 #14
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