Quote Originally Posted by Sinkhole View Post
Night Sights on Ruger LCP. Now that would be a neat trick.
As for easier operation, I would beg to differ that point. How is it a SAO handgun with a manual safety is easier to operate than a DAO Handgun with no manual safety.
Trigger pull is apples to oranges, the LCP is DAO / P238 is SAO . Of course a SAO handgun will have a better trigger pull.
I would also say the Sig is not built any better than the Ruger. They are both superbly built firearms.
I think comparing these guns is just like comparing a Glock 36 to a series 70, 1911, How do you compare the two they are worlds apart in design and function.
Let us not forget there is a considerable size and weight difference between these to guns the Ruger is much smaller and much lighter.
And I totally agree the the .380 is not a useless round.
Oh and I paid $448 + tax for my LCP with a Crimson Trace LG-431 brand new.
$179 for the LG-431 & $269 for the LCP on sale with 2 boxes of ammo.
Please do not buy any means think I am bashing the Sig, I am not. I just can't wrap my mind around a justifiable comparison between the two.



As for the P938 I think its a nice little gun but would like a side by side comparison with a Kimber Solo.
In regards to operation, I was referring to the fact that the SIG P238 has a slide which is easier to pull back (a big selling point for much of the P238's potential buyers), and the fact that the P238 locks back on an empty magazine instead of requiring the shooter to count shots or have the fun *click* moment. Much of the market, in spite of what we as more experience shooters may prefer, still prefers a manual safety.

Just because the LCP uses an inferior mechanism in regards to trigger pull does not make it irrelevant. You could argue that the DAO of the LCP is safer without having an actual safety, but let's be honest about the strengths and weaknesses of each system. Fact: The P238 has a better trigger pull, and especially a better reset.

The P238, which we rent two of on our range, is more durable than the LCP. We have had one extractor break over the course of over a year. The LCPs have pins walking out most of the time, and don't get shot nearly as much. The SIG holds up better under hard use. Does the LCP hold up "well enough", yes... most people buying one will never put 100 rounds through it. So, for the most part, this actually is irrelevant.

And the LCP, while being smaller and lighter, is not significantly so. They're both very compact pistols. It's like splitting hairs between a Ruger LCR and a S&W Bodyguard.

They're both excellent at the job they propose to do... but when they both intend to fill the same role, they must be compared. The general public does so on a daily basis... the LCP and the P238 are fighting over the exact same group of customers. Probably three times per day I show people the LCP and the P238 side by side, because they're the two pistols they are considering for a pocket gun.

For me, the shorter reset, the existence of useable sights, and a lock back on an empty magazine makes the P238 the better choice of the two. The miniscule increase in weight, for me, does not offset these boons. The added expense definitely hurts, but when it comes to firearms, especially those for personal protection, I prefer to just save up and get what I actually want (within reason).



As for a side-by-side with the Kimber Solo.... that would require that someone actually have a Kimber Solo to put beside the P938.