Quote Originally Posted by BoilerUp View Post
Looks like a version of the Razor. I haven't shot the Razor 1-10 but I've read some pretty good reports on the eyebox.

I don't understand the h8 on Vortex. Yes, they have cheap stuff from China in their broad lineup, but the Razors have proven themselves and even won a US Army contract for the glass (based on the Razor) on the XM7. Now, if the UK got a Strike Eagle then I'll jump in on making fun, but the Razor is a solid choice, IMO.
Sinner likes what he likes, and hates what he hates. None of us can change that.

The Razor 1-10 eyebox is relatively unforgiving at 10x, but better than a NX8. At 8x, it's fine. I find the ATACR 1-8 to be slightly more forgiving. Both have their strengths.

(not so) Amusingly, I installed a second 1-10 the other day in your NF mount. Install went much quicker since I had another 1-10 to match position on the receiver. After I torqued everything down, I undid the receiver cross mount bolts to do something (I can't remember what) and got distracted for a minute and then picked up the rifle off the vise. Down went the scope onto the cement garage floor. Oof. Well, at least there's a warranty...

I brushed off the mark, scowled at the small dent that formed on the end of the tube, and finished installing it. When I went to zero it, the then did a tracking test. I could only go to 2.5 mils on the test, but everything still tracked. So it can't be that bad.

Quote Originally Posted by TheRifleman View Post
The hate is from people who thrive off of gun board drama.

I'll admit that The Razor line is great glass. However it's still too heavy, too heavy to be on a rifleman's rifle which is just my personal opinion here.
It's the same weight as all of the other optics (~21 oz). Same weight as the Elcan, ATACR, VCOG, or a G33/EXPS combo (+/- an ounce). Admittedly, the mount adds another 5 oz or so, but it's tough to get greater than 4x that weighs less. I get your gripe, as the two requirements I've always looked for on a LPVO is an actual day light bright dot in FL sun and weight reduction, and I certainly don't need to hump it for miles, which I understand would matter to someone with your background.

But for what's out there in that class, it's competitive.